My thought on AI’s effect on music
I was watching Rick Beato’s YouTube on what’s happening with AI and music a bit ago… and I had some thoughts, which I first started tossing around in a text discussion with a friend on it, then started putting in different places like Facebook etc, then realized I wanted to pursue it some more…
Interesting that his kids knew it was AI, I wonder why that is….
I think the thing that saves us here is that none of these AI models can model on things that have not previously been done. AI gathers what it “knows” from Large Language Models (LLM’s), and so it cannot build something without a database of examples to build from. So, who knew that there was going to be a sound like Nirvana’s until there was? Who knew there was gonna be a sound like Led Zeppelin until there was, basically fill in the blank of anybody that was sort of really unique and original.
So the thing that is the problem in commercial (ized) right now is that corporations have done everything they can to make sure that Music is as homogenized and bland as possible, so it’s easier for them to sell into their existing distribution/advertising pipes. If my thinking is correct, this will likely change, because it will make listening to Corporate/Commercial music uninteresting (more so) because people can come up with whatever they want via AI and then just make a playlist out of it as Beato says in his video.
But new and hella original stuff? That’s going to be very difficult for AI to deal with until it gets good models for it, which will mean that a new mode of music or something that’s quite different from what has been put into their models, has to build up copycats/derivatives and a “database” from which to generate an LLM from etc. etc. .
In this version of the pressure on music from AI, AI can never fully replace humans since it cannot come up with distinctly new and original music on it’s own, because that’s not how it works. As it works now, it pulls from the previous, so it will always be derivative, or at least as AI is done NOW. Of course this is really the first real iteration of it, so evolution being what it is, that will change, and maybe the basis for my thinking will have to change as well.
So perhaps for a time, this could be a good thing, for MUSIC.
For the recorded music business, yeh, not so good, in fact for MANY musicians and artists also, it will be catastrophic. People who make their living generating music for TV shows/movies/videogames, basically any kind of secondary or background music use, they’re clearly fucked, as the corporations will IMMEDIATELY begin to use this to generate perfectly functional background music that they “own”, and thus will not have to pay for, and that will be the end of that cottage industry and I mean FAST. There’s a good chance that a very FEW jobs will be created overseeing that process, which will likely be filled by some of the current producers of that type of material since they’re very good at taking the direction from the corporate entity and filling the requirements as described, which makes them the perfect people to design request prompts to AI, but everyone else in that business? Doomed.
Probably the only place where musicianship will matter going forward is going to be live in living rooms to concert arenas, with the caveat that “live” is already very compromised in many cases. While a whole other discussion can be had on that subject, fact remains that there is something that happens live that is kind of magical, and I have a hard time seeing that change because of AI, tho of course we never know what the future holds.
In the favor of the existing systems is the fact that because all AI output is derivative from what has been put into it, there’s a very good legal basis for stopping the use of this kind of software because of copyright protections. Which is what the newspapers are attempting right now, so that will be very interesting to watch. But this thing is racing like a 70mph forest fire, and the courts are notoriously slow in cases like this, so while cases shamble along through the system, AI will be setting up systems that will become such an entrenched part of business and life, that it will become impossible to come back from it.
All that said, it’s pretty shocking how good it’s getting already, as you can hear in the Beato piece.
Good luck out there my friends, it could be a long music winter in AI land.
Pussy Riot Attacked by gang in Sochi

http://wapo.st/Oa4ZwN
I’m not sure how a bunch of thugs running around the streets of Sochi attacking people they don’t like ISN’T a gang, but in any case these pricks did this…..
A response to a Lefsetz Letter
RE: “This is our country” – http://www.lefsetz.com and the replies to your earlier posts regarding the AZ law.
I don’t see much of the music “lefties” in my day to day as a working L.A. musician.
The idea of a majority of artist-types being lefty or liberal is WAAAYYYY off, in my experience many of those replies reflect what I see these days, this weird kinda libertarianism that’s rooted in the most strict Rand-ian principles from like 7th grade.
Nuance, humanity, understanding and empathy take a far back seat to rigid adherence to ideals that are not only impossible to actually implement in the real world, but would only work in fiction, which is where they were popularized.
Here’s the thing, although while I was touring my records I would often get angry, (sometimes extremely and close to violent) responses to my political views, the rabid frothing right-wing anger I currently see from my fellow musicians is what I find the most disturbing. And I feel like it reflects the same shift in the music being produced…in other words, the type of thinking that gives you 60’s era CSN, Dylan, Mitchell, Baez etc al, does NOT jibe with the current working music landscape, but rather the kind of lockjaw-ed, pissed off, rigid, corporate minded, and “I’ll get mine and FUCK you” kind of thinking that I now see so much of amongst working musicians works pretty well in the current music environment.
I think that’s not surprising, and I think they both shape and strengthen each other.
It’s never been that kind of mind that was a creative force. That kind of mind has always been behind the scenes, predictable, a follower, a sideman, a seller, a middleman. The creative mind tends to be an outsider, open, fluid, interested, humane and unpredictable.
Of course those are HUGE generalizations and many exceptions can be found, but it reflects what I see around me.
You can use my name, if they know me they already know what I think.
SHOWS!
I’m playing a coupla songs at Genghis Cohen with some friends, (and a LOT of other talented people) @ around 9pm – here’s a map –
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and I’m playing a longer set at Arnie’s in Tujunga, some songs will be with the house band, here’s the info on that –
Come out and see some music goodness!
Website, Twitter, Facebook, Instamapper STUFF!!
Heya, do you do Facebook?
Duh, of course you do, Digerati that you are, and if not go here and become one with the Borg!
Once you’ve done that, then you can FAN ME on Facebook to get a start, or to further your Facebook-itis if you’re already there….
Here’s the link – http://www.facebook.com/pages/STILL/98453446469 –
I find I’m online a bunch doing all kinda stuff, in between takes in the studio, setting up licensing, looking at… (WHA?!?!), politicking, killing time in airports (the king-hell time-killer place in the universe, where time goes to die, like elephants), so Facebook gets a lot of attention right now….
I’m on Twitter too – here – I’m always giving things business on there too….I have an iPhone, therefore I must be iPhoney and use it all the damn time….
I have a cool little gadget on this page that when I turn on the app on my iPhone, my live position is mapped in real-time, and pretty accurately. I don’t have it on all the time, but when I play somewhere or am just out and want to run into friends I’ll turn it on for a bit so anyone that’s around can come hang….it’s very Big Brother yeh I know – but I can control when it’s on, so I’m cool with it…..
Anyways, gonna play a gig in Temecula coming up, I’ll fire out the info very shortly here, gotta get going, playing with friends in Palm Desert tonight, loud rocking and screaming, and we’ll be there too…..
Cya soon!
WB